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	<title>Comments on: Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There&#8217;s Wikipedia?</title>
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		<title>By: Geeknews &#187; On the Benefits of Self-Taught Skills</title>
		<link>http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-science-degree-when-theres-wikipedia/comment-page-3#comment-15282</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeknews &#187; On the Benefits of Self-Taught Skills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response to Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There’s Wikipedia? , Chris Olstrom picks up the topic with On the Benefits of Self-Taught Skills. In my opinion he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On the Benefits of Self-Taught Skills — Chris @ Olstrom (.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>On the Benefits of Self-Taught Skills — Chris @ Olstrom (.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chetan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this one is the best.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this one is the best&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MDK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the title and thought it was a joke LOL 
A lot of wiki answers are very incorrect or inaccurate. 
It is true you dun need a degree always... 
But Wiki is not going to help lol. 
Some is accurate but they have a lot of contents that is very inaccurate. 


If I was to go and search for &#039;&#039;God&#039;&#039; on wikipedia would that mean I have understood the whole idea and ideal of God ? That is just silly. Philosophers and scholars have been trying to come up with that answer for thousands of years. 
You couldn&#039;t possibly be an expert by reading every single wiki article on the NET and these articles are constantly changing. 
To be a expert one must do extensive studying (years) and real hands on experience. 

@ Henk ...


&#039;&#039;First, you’ll have to establish your own order of learning stuff – if you learn about, say, polymorphism before you learn the basics of OO programming, you won’t get it and, more importantly, be discouraged&#039;&#039; 

Object Oriented is not always the preferred first choice in my experience. Why ? It handles a lot of different styles of coding, which can leave a newbie first time confused, especially if they&#039;re new to computers in general. 
OOP is only recommended for Coders who need to build, manage, structure big projects. 
First one, learns the key basics, syntax wise and parameters. 
All programming languages are based on a similiar syntax just different styles and procedures 
First language I recommend is [Procedural programming] &#039;&#039;Pascal&#039;&#039; or standard &#039;&#039;C&#039;&#039; Which focus&#039;s a bit more on the algorithms and data structures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the title and thought it was a joke LOL<br />
A lot of wiki answers are very incorrect or inaccurate.<br />
It is true you dun need a degree always&#8230;<br />
But Wiki is not going to help lol.<br />
Some is accurate but they have a lot of contents that is very inaccurate. </p>
<p>If I was to go and search for &#8221;God&#8221; on wikipedia would that mean I have understood the whole idea and ideal of God ? That is just silly. Philosophers and scholars have been trying to come up with that answer for thousands of years.<br />
You couldn&#8217;t possibly be an expert by reading every single wiki article on the NET and these articles are constantly changing.<br />
To be a expert one must do extensive studying (years) and real hands on experience. </p>
<p>@ Henk &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221;First, you’ll have to establish your own order of learning stuff – if you learn about, say, polymorphism before you learn the basics of OO programming, you won’t get it and, more importantly, be discouraged&#8221; </p>
<p>Object Oriented is not always the preferred first choice in my experience. Why ? It handles a lot of different styles of coding, which can leave a newbie first time confused, especially if they&#8217;re new to computers in general.<br />
OOP is only recommended for Coders who need to build, manage, structure big projects.<br />
First one, learns the key basics, syntax wise and parameters.<br />
All programming languages are based on a similiar syntax just different styles and procedures<br />
First language I recommend is [Procedural programming] &#8221;Pascal&#8221; or standard &#8221;C&#8221; Which focus&#8217;s a bit more on the algorithms and data structures.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitiara Uth Matar &#187; in Wikipedia we trust.</title>
		<link>http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-science-degree-when-theres-wikipedia/comment-page-3#comment-15171</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitiara Uth Matar &#187; in Wikipedia we trust.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Simple</title>
		<link>http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-science-degree-when-theres-wikipedia/comment-page-3#comment-15108</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very true my fren, i also did learn a lot from wikipedia and did get job learning wikipedia... Bravo WIkipedia...

Regards,
Simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very true my fren, i also did learn a lot from wikipedia and did get job learning wikipedia&#8230; Bravo WIkipedia&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Simple</p>
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		<title>By: alsanan.info</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Geeknews &#187; Top Articles For The Week 12/21/08- Computer Science, Anime, Zombies and the Easter Bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeknews &#187; Top Articles For The Week 12/21/08- Computer Science, Anime, Zombies and the Easter Bunny</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Harly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im by no means a comp e, cs or otherwise but with a science background i&#039;d be really curious to run a study, considering the near endless debate about self-learning in the information age...  

let&#039;s say you took this curriculum, or created a curriculum comparable to the material at a prominent university for the subject (obviously you would have to control for self practice by some means or measure in the variable set to balance the labs, assignments, etc).  then have these folks take the certification/bar/board/etc. that college grads would take and see who&#039;s scores end up higher.  

on a completely separate note, not to say self-taught is by definition a different kind of thinker, but the need for a creative talent becomes more favorable when you account for the risk to be outsourced.  another consideration- how many classes would you never have taken that later provided more breadth and depth that you never would have recognized prior?

great page, great debate, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im by no means a comp e, cs or otherwise but with a science background i&#8217;d be really curious to run a study, considering the near endless debate about self-learning in the information age&#8230;  </p>
<p>let&#8217;s say you took this curriculum, or created a curriculum comparable to the material at a prominent university for the subject (obviously you would have to control for self practice by some means or measure in the variable set to balance the labs, assignments, etc).  then have these folks take the certification/bar/board/etc. that college grads would take and see who&#8217;s scores end up higher.  </p>
<p>on a completely separate note, not to say self-taught is by definition a different kind of thinker, but the need for a creative talent becomes more favorable when you account for the risk to be outsourced.  another consideration- how many classes would you never have taken that later provided more breadth and depth that you never would have recognized prior?</p>
<p>great page, great debate, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: SARANG DRAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>SARANG DRAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.. <img src='http://www.geeknews.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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